tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post5101233700376574011..comments2024-02-29T00:46:38.800-08:00Comments on Washingtons Blog: Sun's Output to Fall ... Leading to a Mini Ice Age?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-86641959687800030472011-06-29T13:19:07.607-07:002011-06-29T13:19:07.607-07:00No matter what the facts are, you won't find t...No matter what the facts are, you won't find them on any George Soros publication; especially Think Regress!Jim Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10053021252531286314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-12208999495898472992011-06-20T16:05:05.386-07:002011-06-20T16:05:05.386-07:00Mr. Wolf: According to Christopher L. Sabine, Ph.D...Mr. Wolf: According to Christopher L. Sabine, Ph.D., "Over the long term (millennial timescales), the ocean has the potential to take up approximately 85 percent of the anthropogenic CO2 that is released to the atmosphere" (http://www.waterencyclopedia.com/Bi-Ca/Carbon-Dioxide-in-the-Ocean-and-Atmosphere. html)." Since Mr. Rossi's nuclear fusion technology will allow us to reduce our emission of CO2 by 90 percent or more during the next 20 years, I believe that the CO2 we have already released and will release in the next 20 years will not pose any risk to Earth's climate system. And the CO2 that we have and will release may help to ameliorate the effects of the Maunder Minimum that we are apparently now entering.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-56005209274134348542011-06-20T14:05:45.356-07:002011-06-20T14:05:45.356-07:00@middleworld
1) No correlation has been found bet...@middleworld<br /><br />1) No correlation has been found between cosmic rays and climate change. None. Zero.<br /><br />2) a change from 280ppm (the pre-industrial average) to 399ppm is significant. Small changes can have an enormous impact on a system which was previously in equilibrium. By your logic there is no reason to ever wash your hands, as something so small you can't even see it (such as bacteria) could never influence a system as big as your body.<br /><br />Also, when referring to a cold spring and winter, you confuse climate with weather, two different things. You may have had a cold winter, but Canada had an unusually warm one. It's called Global Warming, not American Warming.Ben Wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07726143508849742734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-67655997491954579722011-06-20T13:58:16.368-07:002011-06-20T13:58:16.368-07:00@Sandy
A Grand Minimum would not be expected to l...@Sandy<br /><br />A Grand Minimum would not be expected to last more than a century. That is insufficient time for natural processes to remove excess CO2 from the atmosphere, a proces which will take at least a milleniumBen Wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07726143508849742734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-91597371782481296802011-06-20T03:02:51.571-07:002011-06-20T03:02:51.571-07:00To last_name_left
"Scientists have also found...To last_name_left<br />"Scientists have also found that cosmic rays linked to global warming are INCREASING!. The sun is simply getting hotter. Indeed, solar output has been increasing steadily ever since scientists have been able to measure it." <br /><br /><br />That is why other planets are also warming (supposedly)<br /><br />Having CO2 go from 320 parts per trillion (trillion!!!) to 390 parts per trillion isn't gonna radically change anything. It is a TINY TINY amount of CO2- much ado about nothing. We had a freezing winter and a cool spring. It had nothing to do with CO2- climate is SO MUCH MORE complicated. Most scientists are idiots who want fast, easy answers, and can't stand the phrase " I don't know".middleworldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14425425786057371847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-60833684259177402692011-06-20T01:30:46.069-07:002011-06-20T01:30:46.069-07:00Jct: We'd have figured it out earlier if IPCC ...Jct: We'd have figured it out earlier if IPCC hadn't used Mike Mann's "trick to hide the decline" in global temperature. The question is: how much of a decline did the trick hide?King of the Paupershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14374913605730692218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-81786233133923297862011-06-20T00:06:03.417-07:002011-06-20T00:06:03.417-07:00Mr. Wolf: You are correct; some of the "exces...Mr. Wolf: You are correct; some of the "excess" CO2 will be removed from the atmosphere by the slow weathering of rock. However, most of the excess CO2 will be relatively quickly absorbed by the oceans.<br /><br />"The oceans play an important role in regulating the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere because CO2 can move quickly into and out of the oceans." (http://www.waterencyclopedia.com/Bi-Ca/Carbon-Dioxide-in-the-Ocean-and-Atmosphere.html).<br /><br />The excess CO2 will be removed from the atmosphere long before the end of the Maunder Minimum that we are apparently just entering. So don't worry about "Global Warming". And don't worry too much about your electricity bill. Rossi's nuclear fusion process will take the cost of electricity down to about 1 cent per kilowatt hour.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-25973414377316292892011-06-19T22:11:17.504-07:002011-06-19T22:11:17.504-07:00Do any of the AGW 'skeptics' want to expla...Do any of the AGW 'skeptics' want to explain how rising temperatures have occurred during a period when the sun has been weakening, when they consider the sun as the (primary/sole?) drive for earth surface temps?<br /><br />Would any of these budding Einstein's then like to extrapolate and suggest what then might happen when any Maunder minimum which might occur eventually begins to dissipate?<br /><br />*Hint - it isn't going to get cooler.the_last_name_lefthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276770064991215910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-21963642111147175832011-06-19T21:45:45.565-07:002011-06-19T21:45:45.565-07:00Well, it's been a cool spring here in southwes...Well, it's been a cool spring here in southwestern Canada. Lots of rain. <br /><br />1975 was roughly the same, a long winter followed by a wet spring and lousy summer.<br /><br />The cueball sun might have something to do with it. I think if we get fifteen or twenty more years of this, we might be able to say there's a pattern, a wee bit too long for most academics to want a name for themselves in climate 'science' these days.<br /><br />In my opinion, there's a lot of water vapour in the atmosphere... and the way most CO2 freaks out there go on and on about it as a greenhouse gas makes me wish they'd do the world a favour and stop exhaling permanently, especially since H2O is a much more powerful and volatile greenhouse gas than CO2. I'm not even an influential climate pseudoscientist priest and I can figure that one out.Lukiftianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08821616522124125026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-24328050684321905222011-06-19T18:16:11.869-07:002011-06-19T18:16:11.869-07:00@Sandy
CO2 does not "dissipate". It is...@Sandy<br /><br />CO2 does not "dissipate". It is removed from tne atmosphere by rock weathering, a process which takes millenia. The CO2 will be there long after a Grand Minimum ends, even if we go carbon neutral.Ben Wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07726143508849742734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-4181796253532945752011-06-19T12:07:01.091-07:002011-06-19T12:07:01.091-07:00Professor Joanna Haigh said, "When the sun’s ...Professor Joanna Haigh said, "When the sun’s activity returns to normal, the greenhouse gases won't have gone away." She is wrong. We stand on the threshold of an energy revolution. An Italian engineer named Andrea Rossi has invented and patented a commercially practical nuclear fusion reactor (http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-01-italian-scientists-cold-fusion-video.html). His factory in Miami, Florida will ship his first 1 megawatt reactor to a company in Greece in October. By the time the Sun starts warming us at a higher rate, we will have largely abandoned the use of hydrocarbon fuels and the "greenhouse gasses" will have dissipated. So don't worry about "Global Warming."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-74637562038397367272011-06-19T11:02:47.279-07:002011-06-19T11:02:47.279-07:00But remember that scientists have been convinced i...<i>But remember that scientists have been convinced in the past that we would have a new ice age, and even considered pouring soot over the arctic in the 1970s to help melt the ice - in order to prevent another ice age. </i><br /><br />This has been debunked so many times, but zombie lies never die, do they? SOME s-o-m-e scientists believed the Earth was heading into an ice age in the 1970s. On that basis, two newsweeklies wrote articles indicating that the Earth was cooling. The fact is a significant majority of peer-reviewed papers published in the late 1960s and 1970s predicted warming, followed in number by papers that were neutral. It was never an accepted consensus.PeakVThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08375073589474044484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-25859649887246488402011-06-19T08:46:20.506-07:002011-06-19T08:46:20.506-07:00Sory, but that is not true, "maunder minimum&...Sory, but that is not true, "maunder minimum" would reduce anthropogenic warming by between 0.1-0.3 °C by the end of the century, so is that big deal? No. More here:<br /><br />http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/06/15/246202/sun-hibernation-deniers/<br /><br />AlexAlexander Achttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16845172528191878930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-46426578581585382932011-06-19T08:02:19.313-07:002011-06-19T08:02:19.313-07:00Climatologists claim that solar activity cannot ha...Climatologists claim that solar activity cannot have any major effects on earth's climate, but if they incorporated some actual empirical evidence into their models, this data could actually booster their case. <br /><br />" owever, between the 1960s and the present day the same solar measurements have shown that the energy from the sun is now decreasing. At the same time temperature measurements of the air and sea have shown that the Earth has continued to become warmer and warmer. This proves that it cannot be the sun; something else must be causing the Earth's temperature to rise."<br /> www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm<br /><br />If only the scientific method were popular among climate 'scientists'Batman3030https://www.blogger.com/profile/03549913941817529084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-2105656871740159792011-06-19T04:14:36.596-07:002011-06-19T04:14:36.596-07:00why do they think they can predict what the sun wi...why do they think they can predict what the sun will do with 300 years of data? Oh the folly. What does seem obvious is that the sun and not CO2 is mainly responsible for global warming. What it will do next? HA!<br /><br />Watch the "Electric Universe" wherein it is explained that the sun is not a ball of hydrogen but is electrical plasma- fascinating stuff- and "good" science<br />http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4773590301316220374#middleworldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14425425786057371847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-29365809266673964102011-06-19T04:01:42.846-07:002011-06-19T04:01:42.846-07:00An article in Wired (with relevant links) argues t...An article in Wired (with relevant links) argues that drop in sunspot activity won't have much impact: "Sunspot Drop Won’t Cause Global Cooling" -<br /><br />http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/06/solar-minimum-climate/<br /><br />Ditto Joe Romm (Climate Progress) comments in his blog: "Sadly, If Sun Goes Into ‘Hibernation’ It Won’t Stop Catastrophic Global Warming, But It Might Put the Deniers in Hibernation"<br /><br />http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/06/15/246202/sun-hibernation-deniers/<br /><br />Also see "A Solar Scientist Rebuts a Cool Sunspot Prediction"<br /><br />http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/15/a-solar-scientist-rebuts-a-cool-sunspot-prediction/synaxishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07477622512944572213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-70429267227899231872011-06-19T03:20:48.113-07:002011-06-19T03:20:48.113-07:00http://www.theyfly.com/Sunspot-Activity.htmlhttp://www.theyfly.com/Sunspot-Activity.htmlBrucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12578947287312584266noreply@blogger.com