tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post6550422679923412239..comments2024-02-29T00:46:38.800-08:00Comments on Washingtons Blog: First Egypt ... Now Spain?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-62451938589867967322011-05-20T10:13:51.292-07:002011-05-20T10:13:51.292-07:00Representative Democracy is the scam...Representative Democracy is the scam...Danny Livewirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13198193461751484376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-35054775089657540922011-05-20T08:34:53.057-07:002011-05-20T08:34:53.057-07:00do take note of this video recorded before any of ...do take note of this video recorded before any of the governments were toppled..<br /><br />this is all a build up to something prophetic..<br /><br />spain and other europe states are mentioned in it..<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6hIsF45Oew&feature=watch_response_revkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01048866973013972255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-7204733157025593562011-05-19T17:57:50.113-07:002011-05-19T17:57:50.113-07:00Look, Jesus:
1. there are no jobs (>21% unepl...Look, Jesus: <br /><br />1. there are no jobs (>21% uneployment, most of the rest is junk jobs)<br /><br />2. housing is extremely expensive, even for decently paid workers<br /><br />3. this government and the next one (there's only a cosmetic difference) only care about house prices remaining high (for the banks and speculators to keep their ripoff profits, in Madrid as in Berlin), forces bankrupt people to remain indebted for life (not even in India anymore!), forces people to work for salaries that cannot even pay housing... <br /><br />It may not be a problem of only Spain but Spain is quite archetypal, even in an exaggerated way, of the problems of the Western World and the Capitalist economy. The problems that nobody within the system is willing to face because that would mean "betraying" their masters: the bankers of the World. <br /><br />What they need to do is, even at a European level, to go socialist heavy handedly and to get the banks spanked and intervened by the states/EU. But that's taboo, that's breaking the essence of the decadent bourgeois system... So we are bound to have a revolution: this is just the entrances. <br /><br />And it's not something that can be controlled: labor unions kiss the boots of the bankers and IMF and try to prevent this kind of things... but that only gets them out of play. Self-organization surges anew from any corner and crystallizes in this kind of stuff.<br /><br />Now it's a bunch of angry educated un-/underemployed youths, tomorrow a surprise general strike, then pickets in the airports or major roads... you never know how can this evolve but what is clear is that leaders or rulers are expected to deliver and, when they do not, people get truly angry. <br /><br />And as I say it's not a problem of just Spain: the USA is not that different. It's all NATOland which is exploding as we talk. What will happen? I can't say but I can say that people won't settle for less than dignified jobs and homes (and a decent health/environment, let's not forget Fukushima, DWH, Garoña, etc.)Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-54636238366647507842011-05-19T15:51:04.330-07:002011-05-19T15:51:04.330-07:00Admiting that there are clear and legitim reasons ...Admiting that there are clear and legitim reasons for the protest, let's not forget that the current socialist government has been two year denying the economic crisis, and spending the fortune that is now forcing the strong austerity mesures in ineficient economic stimulus and bailing out the politiced savings banks (important: not a single proffesionaly managed bank has received state funds).<br /><br />In Spain families are also heavily indebted, who is guilty, just the banks?, the banks for lending and the families for accepting the lends? or these two parties and the government with populists statements like Spain is in the Champions leage of the economy. Isn`t there some demagogy making the banks the only one guilty <br /><br />When an inefficient government is supported by a conservative party, the solution is changing the government; when a bad government is supported by a socialist party, the solution is changing the system. Isn`t it suspicious? <br /><br />Why this is happening just now, few days before the elections? Who is benefited?jesuspedrazahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17539518625975366198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-31963873283667204402011-05-19T11:50:01.952-07:002011-05-19T11:50:01.952-07:00Thanks George for bringing the subject up. But the...Thanks George for bringing the subject up. But there’s much more to this than just unemployed youth. It’s much more sophisticated than that.<br /><br />The rallying cry for this movement is “Real Democracy Now”. Like in all western countries, we have found that our democratic governments are subservient to the markets. We have lost our sovereignty! <br /><br />Thirty years ago, after the death of Franco, this country went through a Transition to Democracy. Now we find that “democracy” means bailing out the banks and slashing social services, such as the rights to a decent education and public health —the pillars of any civilised society. <br /><br />Furthermore, we now have people standing for election who are being investigated for corruption, big corruption. But the judiciary is politicised and doesn’t have the balls to do anything about it. We forgot to clean up the judiciary in our Transition to Democracy, and you can’t have “Democracy” without a fair judiciary.<br /><br />And then there’s the banks, their dodgy mortgages and excessive housing prices.<br /><br />Still, we’re a stubborn people and have dealt with worse before.<br /><br />Meanwhile: #spanishrevolution is spreading like wild fire and the Italians are picking up on it, plus the French, Brits and other, I just read.<br /><br />It just goes to prove: you don’t have to be Arab to enjoy the Spring!<br /><br />Luis<br /><br />PS. Oh, and this is going on is Madrid and fifty other cities. Here’s some photos:<br />http://www.publico.es/espana/376435/indignados-con-el-sistemaluishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09009410840042842763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-53246864840716464.post-48734659327072348482011-05-18T19:01:59.630-07:002011-05-18T19:01:59.630-07:00I don't think it is directly comparable (even ...I don't think it is directly comparable (even if it has some similitudes). As one of the protesters in Madrid said, the repression that they suffer in North Africa is quite worse than in Spain - and that has also pushed for much stronger movements, that anyhow have only achieved so much yet. <br /><br />But it is clear that there is massive discontent in Spain (and Portugal and Greece and let's not forget Italy, France or the UK - that have also witnessed large protests through the last not so many months). And it cannot be otherwise with 21% unemployment (and rising) and much of the remaining jobs being underemployment with ridiculous "salaries" and painful conditions. Not to mention that in Spain there's almost no welfare other than healthcare, pensions and a very brief unemployment subsidy. Most unemployed or underemployed are therefore in horrible situations. <br /><br />Add to that the cost of life, which is similar to much wealthier parts of Europe and the cost of housing, which is more expensive than in Northern Europe (because of speculation essentially). <br /><br />The situation is therefore explosive and if it has not exploded yet it is because the major unions are totally sheepish and have signed brutal concessions with not even symbolic fight, just because they depend on what the state pays them - for that there is always money, as there is for the military or for the crazy salaries of political officers, elect or appointed. <br /><br />But the Spanish political system is designed, like most Western "democracies" to produce a fake alternation between nearly identical twin parties and that way impede any real challenge to the status quo. That is why he protesters had (have?) "true democracy now!" as one of their central slogans, because the perception is that the citizens are not really able to influence a political scene that is designed as a bunker of bipartisanship. <br /><br />It was a legitimate criticism of the USSR that they had a single party but the two party system of the West is not really much better, specially as both parties are nearly identical except in token cause celebres like abortion or gay rights (not that these are not important but they are not the central issue most of the time).Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.com