Wednesday, April 15, 2009
Will Texas Secede?
I previously warned that the financial crisis might cause the U.S. to break apart like the Soviet Union.
The governor of Texas, Rick Perry, said today:
Texans might at some point get so fed up they would want to secede from the union, though he said he sees no reason why Texas should do that.
"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."
Perry is running for re-election, and so its difficult to know whether this is a genuine threat or an election stunt.
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As far as I know, Texas forfeited the right to secede when they joined the Union. They tried to secede once before, and we know how that worked out.
ReplyDeleteI think 45 % of Texas voted for Obama. It will probably be a 'blue' state in a few cycles.
ReplyDeleteNever trust Rick Perry
ReplyDeleteTime after time we Texans have watched him say one thing then do another. He is a real traitor, a big talker who will stab you in the back at the last second of any fight, and go behind your back and collaborate with the enemy for his own personal advantage. Alex Jones has Perry's latest rabble-rousing B.S. here (http://www.infowars.com/rick-perrys-cynical-effort-to-exploit-the-tea-party-movement-and-states-rights/).
Ricky is being partially truthful about one thing. He calls Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson a selfish, greedy insider, part of the problem. The full truth is that they are peas in a pod, partners in crime, thick as thieves.
Ol' Perry propagating that myth that Texas reserved the right to secede.
ReplyDeleteIf you go to a public college here in Texas, you have to take a Texas history and Texas government class, and you will be told in both that it is a myth, untrue that Texas can 'legally' secede or reserves some right to do so.
In reality, any state can make the choice to secede, and it would also be akin to an act of war against the U.S. Federal Government.
I second what diykozmonot said. All states are sovereign and can therefor secede at will. However because we ignored the warnings of the founding fathers our states are subject to the Federal Government.
ReplyDeleteIt should be noted that Perry is Pro big government and wasn't against any of this crap when Bush was boss. So I highly doubt he is sincere.
You guys do know that Texas makes up close to 75% of the entire United States military don't you? We have a lot of pride here mixed with a lot of people. I think rather I know that if Texas decided to bow out, we would be perfectly fine on our own. The government couldn't touch us.
ReplyDeleteTexas is the most likely to secede first. Oil, Tech, Medical, Finance, Military, Ports, Diverse, etc... the list goes on. I hope they do and prove to the US and the world that our socialist progressive government is a complete wreck.
ReplyDeleteThere's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."
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Joining the United States is voluntary (except for Hawaii, which was conquered). Also, leaving the Union can be done by any state. Unless a tyrant uses military force to prevent a state or states from leaving the Union (that being said, Lincoln did the right thing at the time. But what was right then may not be right now). The United States constitution is completely silent on both joining and leaving the Union, therefore there is no Constitutional basis for joining or leaving the Union. The Declaration of Independence further states that people ought to change the government when the government no longer servers the people. Furthermore, if a state does secede, then US law wouldn't apply anyways. How could it? The state seceded. That's the same for SCOTUS rulings. Additionally, Texas does not have to, but could, splinter itself into five different states.
ReplyDeleteAgain, if Texas seceded, it wouldn’t be subject to U.S. Jurisdiction. That isn’t to say that it couldn’t be reintegrated by force or one day rejoining. It’s unlikely that force would work in today’s modern age due to the fact that over half the U.S. military is Texan. There are also other secessionist movements primarily in Vermont, Oregon, Hawaii and Alaska. While not in the United States, but in Canada, Quebec almost seceded from Canada. 50.4% of Quebecians voted to remain with Canada while 49.6 voted to secede.