Many people have heard Pulitzer prize winning reporter Seymour Hersh's claim that boys were sodomized at Abu Ghraib and that the Pentagon has video of the rapes.
Many people think that they'll believe it when and if they ever see the video. But we don't need to wait for the military to release the videos. There is already proof that Hersh is right.
For example, the Guardian wrote in 2004:
The October 12 memorandum, reported in the Washington Post...came to light as more details emerged of the extent of detainee abuse. Formal statements by inmates published yesterday describe horrific treatment at the hands of guards, including the rape of a teenage Iraqi boy by an army translator...
According to the leaked memorandum ... it also called for military intelligence officials to work more closely with the military police guards at the prison to "manipulate an internee's emotions and weaknesses"...In the Washington Post report, one detainee, Kasim Hilas, describes the rape of an Iraqi boy by a man in uniform, whose name has been blacked out of the statement, but who appears to be a translator working for the army.
"I saw [name blacked out] fucking a kid, his age would be about 15-18 years. The kid was hurting very bad and they covered all the doors with sheets. Then when I heard the screaming I climbed the door because on top it wasn't covered and I saw [blacked out], who was wearing the military uniform putting his dick in the little kid's ass," Mr Hilas told military investigators. "I couldn't see the face of the kid because his face wasn't in front of the door. And the female soldier was taking pictures."
It is not clear from the testimony whether the rapist described by Mr Hilas was working for a private contractor or was a US soldier...
Another inmate, Thaar Dawod, describes more abuse of teenage Iraqis. "They came with two boys naked and they were cuffed together face to face and Grainer [Corporal Charles Graner, one of the military policemen facing court martial] was beating them and a group of guards were watching and taking pictures from top and bottom and there was three female soldiers laughing at the prisoners," he said.
More convincingly, the Telegraph wrote in 2004:
America was braced last night for new allegations of torture in Iraq after military officials said that photographs apparently showing US soldiers beating an Iraqi prisoner nearly to death and having sex with a female PoW were about to be released.
The officials told the US television network NBC that other images showed soldiers "acting inappropriately with a dead body". A videotape, apparently made by US personnel, is said to show Iraqi guards raping young boys.
Expect atrocities from USA, United States of Atrocities.
ReplyDeleteIsrael is happy. That's all that's important.
ReplyDeleteI am sick to my stomach knowing this and being an American citizen. We should prosecute everyone involved or else we are doomed to repeat it.
ReplyDeleteThe revolution has begun...
the United States Tool Of Israhell likes to torture, sodomize, rape, murder, pillage, destroy, wreak havoc, instill fear, cause pandemonium, assassinate leaders in other countries, genetically modify crops to destroy indigenous crops in 3rd. world countries (monsanto).
ReplyDeleteso what else is new? When you have the right to wholesale kill people, using your AL-CIA-DA apparatus, world wide, and nobody can stop you, because you have a massive nuclear arsenal and you have demonstrated your absolute willingness to invade and destroy countries that haven't harmed you, then there obviously is no RULE OF LAW anywhere on the Earth that can rein you in.
So that's the summary of the future. Endless wars, incomprehensible blight on the planet, all brought to you all by the United Snakes of A Merde-ca!
wtf is wrong with americans? even your average kid who becomes a soldier is OK with this kind of abuse? laughing and videoing it?
ReplyDeletewtf is wrong with the females involved?
women are supposed to have a maternal instinct.
sick sick sick
wake up america--your imperialism is destroying you from the inside.
Will this be the subject of "Captain DRESSUP's" Iraq war memorial/statue?? A 20 foot tall bronze statue of a little boy bent over a table? will it go between the Washington and Lincoln memorials? More proud moments in American history.
ReplyDeleteas of late, I haven't seen too much maternalism in Amerikan women. most of them I know would cut my still beating heart out of me and feed it to me if I pissed them off. if that's maternal instinct, I sure as hell hate to see what the hell is 'bitter hatred' then, okay?
ReplyDeleteas for Amerika destroying itself from the inside, it's like a festering wound full of pus and putrefaction. maggoty. smelly. wandering around the planet like a giant 300 million celled amoeba, consuming everything in it's path, destroying everything, butt fucking everything. oh, spare me the; "uh, but we do give out FOREIGN AID TO COUNTRIES" b.s., which is true, but Amerika's biggest FOREIGN AID has been in the form of DEPLETED URANIUM and other munitions, plus WHITE PHOSPHOROUS, used in Fallujah and Ramadi and just recently, in Afghanistan.
but I did want to throw up seeing the grinning Abu Ghraib female, gloating over the still partially refridgerated corpse of a detainee they beat to death. That made me want to punch that stupid c.u.n.t. in the face with brass knuckles on. now that's Amerikan maternalism at it's finest, isn't she????
The majority of U.S. Christians who attend church regularly support "enhanced interrogation," which is newspeak for torture. Incomprehensible.
ReplyDeleteEvery evil that people commit-will return as the evil they must experience themselves-so that hypocrites may see the truth of what they really are-Karma means Mirror=(You are what you do to others) The cycle of sowing is now over for the USA-Now begins the cycle of reaping the truth of what the american hypocrites truly are, get ready to live as all those you oppressed receive the power to oppress you-Americans are about to live like those they put in prison and those they tortured and starved in third world countries. Get ready for the Hell you so proudly (as hypocrites do) have done, and do to others-to soon reveal the truth of your true evil. The USA will soon become Hell the worst on earth. Americans who have already lost their souls-prepare for the "second death".
ReplyDeleteDon't you understand. We have to protect Israel. That is why we destroyed Iraq; it was a threat to Israel. That is why we are invading a nuclear armed Pakistan; those weapons could fall in the hands of terrorists. That is why we will invade Iran, because they want to wipe Israel off the map. That is why we pass hate laws, to stop Anti-Semites. That is why we never stop talking about the holocaust, because you people need to be reminded about what you did. So what if some boys were raped, so what if some people were killed, so what if free speech is lost, AT LEAST ISRAEL IS SAFE.
ReplyDeleteSomeone said:
ReplyDelete"I am sick to my stomach knowing this and being an American citizen. We should prosecute everyone involved or else we are doomed to repeat it."
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This is nothing. America has done things a thousand times worse. Ask Israel for advise, and you end-up leaving Hitler in the dust.
Dude, great fact checking! Hersh won a Pulitzer, several Polk Awards, and a George Orwell Award. They don't award Nobels for journalism and he isn't a literary writer. Do you want to be taken seriously?
ReplyDeleteDamn you Americans for having degraded your country to such level. Damn you for having applauded George Bush the first and the second. Damn you for not pressing on Obama to take those bastards to court and execute them all.
ReplyDeletesome of us did everything we could to stop the illegal invasion of iraq back in 1991, after April Glaspie said; "yeeh, go ahead, go on into Kuwait, we have no objection whatsoever..." to Saddam, to set him up for the Bush Bastard 2 (George H.W. Bush is bush bastard 2, Prescott Bush is Bush bastard ONE, for his treason and bankrolling the nazi war machine in WW-II).
ReplyDeletethen, when we saw the wind up pitch for Iraq screwjob number two, wrath of JR BUSH BASTARD, we tried once again, to no avail. some of us took weeks off work, calling washington d.c. and raising hell. our long distance telephone bills reflect it, too. the only thing we didn't do was show up in person to start encircling the white house, which now is so blood splattered, they should call it the REDRUM HOUSE (murder house).
but, we had really lost our only legitimate government back in 1963, when Bush Bastard 2 and a handful of henchmen from C.I.A., murdered our president and took the nation into a Military Industrial Complex DICTATORSHIP.
we have not had a legitimate, 'real' government for 46 years, and though many of us tried to ignore the fact that this was the case, and tried to change things, we were never ever close enough to the power levers to make any difference. for your info, nobody here voted any of the Bush bastards into office, genuinely. they were all installed by massive amounts of vote rigging and chicanery, all the way back to Bush Bastard 2, George H.W. Bush. We've been going further and further into a dictatorship, and now, 46 years later, we are so irrevocably fucked and taken over by a corrupt, illegitimate 'shadow' government, we have no recourse whatsoever except to prepare ourselves for armed rebellion.
but we tried. believe me, some of us did our best, but we were fighting against the C.I.A. and the 'shadow' government, and our ballots might have been sheets of toilet paper, wiping our asses with them instead of submitting them to be counted in elections.
no excuses, just facts. some of us tried. we really did. I know I did.
To the last anonymous:
ReplyDeleteI agree with you. God bless you. But to visit one palalk room of right wing idiots supporting Bush for whatever he did (it is called freedom), and claiming to hate Obama solely because they accuse him of being a Muslim, will show you how some Americans are proud of torture, proud of rape, proud of everything Bush did, and that will make you boil in anger against these idiots. I know the American people are mostly decent and honorable, but the bad apples have dominated lately.
All it takes to get the masses (of Americans in this case) to do whatever you (as their leaders) want is to fulfill their basic needs and give them entertainment. Even the Romans new this. We tend to have both, so what do you fucking expect? The people aren't going to care. And the soldiers are forced to fight and die for the sake of robbing a people of their natural resources, you can't help but wonder what that will do to a soldiers psyche. That they become barbaric is only a symptom of the system in which they're caught. We're only human, and our behavior is predictable.
ReplyDeleteWhat lead us to where we are today however is centralization of power in the free market leading to massive corporations which control who gets elected through campaign contributions, control what people believe through control of the media (after all, this is where ad revenue comes from), and deciding what policies get taken through lobbying which creates an atmosphere in Washington which doesn't even represent an already thoroughly indoctrinated and placated people. If you hate what America is, then rather than spawn more hatred by flinging insults at 300 million people, fight the corporate neo-liberal system where you live and hope it doesn't spread there as well. Fight to decentralize power and create a politically active and involved constituency.
America's focus on the short term has already doomed us, so just be patient and don't repeat our mistakes. But the America bashing needs to end. It doesn't get you anywhere and only increases the cognitive disconnect between the US and the rest of the world by antagonizing us.
Everyone is so quick to blame AMERICA. I'm sorry ladies and gentlemen, but do you even pay attention to the billions of dollars we give away in foreign aide. Obama pushes for America to have a higher "tax rate" on Americans to give to foreign countries 4 times the amount any other country gives. We have people in all countries working to make them better stronger more independent people.
ReplyDeleteYou see the needle in the haystack and you make it seem as if this is all that Americans ever do. The truth is, that we're the ones in the spotlight, so you see all the cracks and imperfections because, well hey we're the one that's making things happen, and frankly people don't like it.
Why don't you look at countries like Africa where people do horrible things everyday in the gov't and they go unnoticed. Places like Darfur, do you hear about them now? No. It's old news. What about communist China where they force feed your "rights" or lack there of to you and heaven forbid you have any freedom. We all know freedom is what makes humans thrive. Look at Hong Kong, fastest growing nation until they got eaten by the Red Monster.
You don't see Ahmadenijad getting too much flack for being a giant racist towards Jews. Nobody ever talks about the evils committed by saddam hussein or the HUGE YELLOW CAKE cache they found in IRAQ that was sent to Canada. Nah that's not WMD cake mix at all...
So before you start pointing your anti-american fingers over this way, take a reality pill and take a look at what your own countries are doing that NOBODY CARES ABOUT. We all know the media is out to make the US look bad anyway to merge it with Canada and Mexico in hopes of making the NWO.
The downtrodden, the poor and the huddled masses in the rest of the world looked to you, America, to help them fight against their tyrannical rulers for their right to 'Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness'- the ideals of your Founding Fathers.
ReplyDeleteHow badly you've let them down in your pursuit of greed and blind adherence to the apartheid agenda of a foreign state which does not have your interests at heart. Torture, sodomizing little boys in front of their mothers, death and destruction to those who do not wish to be like you - this is how you will be remembered when your empire is no more and its history written. I am sad for you, America, I am very sad. You now have a chance to redeem yourself. Take it. You may never have another chance.
I'm still horrified by this event.
ReplyDeleteI'm as disgusted as many other Americans who aren't brainwashed by the corporate-controlled media.
ReplyDeleteHowever, most of our countrymen have been given a false political reality since birth. We are distracted and polarized by the wedge issues of the left and right. Meanwhile, we don't see that the Democratic and Republican parties are two sides of the same coin--two wings of the same bird of prey. Our government has been slowly and systematically usurped by international bankers, coporations and technocrats of non-governmental organizations. Our only remnants of democracy are an illusion.
I'm very sorry to admit that our current administration works for the same internationl non-governmental organizations as George W. Bush worked for. Only low level offenders will be prosecuted for these crimes against humanity. 'They' will never let the investigation get close to the top of the hiearchy of command.
We will see a continuation of wealth transferred to the top 1%, war with Pakistan and Iran, the collapse of the dollar, more loss of individual rights and movement toward a big-brother police state.
We will have more Abu Ghraib style torture abroad and on U.S. soil if we don't WAKE UP our countrymen to what is happening to our nation. 150 million people were killed by governments in the last century. It's time we kept a closer eye on ours.
Know the verifiable, detrimental information you won't see on O'reilly or Olbermann:
Globalresearch [dot] com
Wanttoknow [dot] info
Infowars [dot] com
Wikileaks [dot] com
Pure leftist propaganda garbage. Bring it on!! Those of us on the right are ready for this battle. BTW, Cheney pwned Nobama yesterday using logic and facts while BO could only offer flowery unsubstantive vacuous rhetoric. Game on you leftist pukes!
ReplyDeletenotorious roscoe.......... The fact that church goers support torture, is easy. To go to church, and support toture, you just have to believe what you are told by the authorities. That there is a supreme being who watches your every move, and that you are under threat from foreigners who need persuaded to speak. The scary bit is that if they are told that we are a threat, then they'll believe that too.
ReplyDeleteAny half-way intelligent person can tell the difference between 'the people' and the government which is supposed to represent them.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 5.47 PM is correct; the rot set in with America after WWII. Do a search for 'Operation Paperclip', for instance. There are plenty of decent Americans who have done their best to speak out against the various corrupt administrations since JFK, but the neo-fascists have usurped all the power, including the power of the MSM.
Think about other governments in Europe that are as corrupt as that of America. In Britain, for instance, the rot set in with Ted Heath conniving to push Britain into joining the Common Market (EU) with a deceptive and rigged 'referendum'. Look again at the regimes of Margaret Thatcher, Britain's first Neo-Con before the term was invented; John Major, now working for the Carlyle Group; Tony Blair, who, together with Israeli whore Angela Merkel and those bought and paid for Polish brothers, enabled Wanker Bush in his ILLEGAL declaration of war on Iraq and Afghanistan, and Gordon Brown, a little man in a big job, who through his Home Secretary the fascist Jacqie Smith, has declared his own war on freedom for the British people, not to mention his ongoing support for the atrocities in Iraq, Afghanistan, Gaza and now Pakistan.
European 'leaders' have enabled American presidents since the Reagan years, so America does not have all the blame; just most of it, especially the ones that think like the misinformed Anonymous 10:02 AM.
what makes anyone here think that American's have any control over this situation. Americans were so desperate for change from what was happening they elected Obama...another puppet who make it worse on the promise of change. Americans wanted to end the war on terror and voted for a man who promised "change" but never said what that change was.
ReplyDeleteAverage Americans are POWERLESS! We are subjects of slavery. Economic slavery. Our unemployment figures are falsified and the real number is near 20%
We have no power...the elite have the power. The kids are being brainwashed at an alarming rate and drugged to make them into Nazi soldiers. Our suicide rate of enlisted is the highest in 60 years.
People go into the military becuase there is no other real jobs and to get money for college which is a waste of money but you can't get a basic entry level job without it.
However, there is a movement in America. A Patriotic movement that has rejected "democracy" and has gone back to our roots...a republic. People are rediscovering what our founding father's intended us to be and a world super power id not part of that.
It may take a generation to get the power shift from elite career politicians to real representatives but it will happen.
Instead of labeling all Americans as greedy, consuming pigs maybe you should realize most want the same things you want. Freedom! Peace and prosperity.
We are in a intellectual war that will take America back from the foreign entities that have taken control of us. (Israel and central banks) but it will be a long time before we can get it back.
Instead of demonizing us maybe you should realize there is an army of civilians and para military who will take our country back and we will make it right again. Supporting us will do more than demonizing all Americans for the actions of a few.
Why do the Caucasian race always cause problems around the world. Is it genetic!!!!!
ReplyDeleteInteresting that the hate being railed at here is the same hate.....Those blaming "AMERICA" for the actions of it's government are as guilty as the "Americans" blaming Islam for Bin laden.
ReplyDeleteYour hate overshadows your brain.....Just like the large number of Americans who's fear overshadows theirs.
NOT everyone in America is even aware of what has been done in their name - the vast majority still believes the MSM who refuses to report it, the government who refuses to discuss it and their fantasy of what we used to stand....
Many of us are spending or time and energy doing what we can to bring truth to the fore but to have people scream hate at those they misunderstand and have no Clue as to what is reality is LESS than useless.
YOU CAN HATE me for being American but it is NOT America you hate but the ignorance in ALL MEN who allow atrocities to happen...From Saddam to Bush, they are all the same - Bin Laden to Cheney...brothers in their psychopathic hate of what is good while Power lust consumes them in an evil fire - all they care about is the power that eats away at their heart like a cancer. The disease spreads to those they infect with their hatred and power lust....
They could care less for those who die - collaterol damage is always allowed when chasing power and those who fall are just less worthy and not deserving in the eye of those psychopathic cretins.
Rape and torture is only a means to an end - what is done by one of these cretins is certainly done by the other. it is all a manner of dehumanizing those from which they seek to steal
And they have you fighting their battles for them like little robots, you do as your masters want...HATE feeds them...YOUR HATE, our HATE.
Fear feeds them as well like some power vampire who sucks the life from their little Renfields...Create hate and fear and dehumanize the "enemy"....
Once one enemy is gone, they will create another....That lust for power never is sated...
So your choice is to fall into their spell, dehumanize Americans as they have been told to dehumanize you...
OR you can join with those of us who see the truth and fight the pull in order to show the world what the truth ACTUALLY IS.
Take away the hate and the fear and those creatures will; slither back intyo their little scum filled holes or dry up and die like a worm in the sun
Interesting that the hate being railed at here is the same hate.....Those blaming "AMERICA" for the actions of it's government are as guilty as the "Americans" blaming Islam for Bin laden.
ReplyDeleteYour hate overshadows your brain.....Just like the large number of Americans who's fear overshadows theirs.
NOT everyone in America is even aware of what has been done in their name - the vast majority still believes the MSM who refuses to report it, the government who refuses to discuss it and their fantasy of what we used to stand....
Many of us are spending or time and energy doing what we can to bring truth to the fore but to have people scream hate at those they misunderstand and have no Clue as to what is reality is LESS than useless.
YOU CAN HATE me for being American but it is NOT America you hate but the ignorance in ALL MEN who allow atrocities to happen...From Saddam to Bush, they are all the same - Bin Laden to Cheney...brothers in their psychopathic hate of what is good while Power lust consumes them in an evil fire - all they care about is the power that eats away at their heart like a cancer. The disease spreads to those they infect with their hatred and power lust....
They could care less for those who die - collaterol damage is always allowed when chasing power and those who fall are just less worthy and not deserving in the eye of those psychopathic cretins.
Rape and torture is only a means to an end - what is done by one of these cretins is certainly done by the other. it is all a manner of dehumanizing those from which they seek to steal
And they have you fighting their battles for them like little robots, you do as your masters want...HATE feeds them...YOUR HATE, our HATE.
Fear feeds them as well like some power vampire who sucks the life from their little Renfields...Create hate and fear and dehumanize the "enemy"....
Once one enemy is gone, they will create another....That lust for power never is sated...
So your choice is to fall into their spell, dehumanize Americans as they have been told to dehumanize you...
OR you can join with those of us who see the truth and fight the pull in order to show the world what the truth ACTUALLY IS.
Take away the hate and the fear and those creatures will; slither back intyo their little scum filled holes or dry up and die like a worm in the sun
Richard...
ReplyDeleteNo doubt. When we were screaming about this years back, we were laughed at and called conspiracy theorists or un-American.
Which goes to show. Whichever party is "in control" and I use the term in control loosely commits some of the greatest atrocities.
Obama will do nothing about this because it will implicate several democrats as well and he is all about party loyalty.
It's become very obvious at this point who is in control and it certainly is not the POTUS.
The bankers, military industrial complex, pharmaceutical industrial complex and any industry that can only profit from war and manipulation and fear are in control and have been since the early 1900's if not longer.
It is our duty to protect this country from all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC and right now the greatest threat is DOMESTIC in the form of GOVERNMENT.
More Americans die from peanut allergies each year than from "terrorism" yet this is our number one threat somehow? Heart disease is our number cause of death in America yet all the funding seems to go towards the war machine. The priorities and the agendas of the past several administrations (including the present) have become crystal clear.
How many pictures were available to the German public when the Nazi atrociities were happening? We are much more responsible for what is going on now than the Germans were regarding the treatment of the Jews. Why? We know it is happening! Not only do we know of torture, rape and murder committed in our names, we give our hard earned money to insure it continues to happen and require NO ACCOUNTABILITY from our "representatives".
ReplyDeleteI wonder if people will ever realize that the easiest path to change is the General Strike. If enough people would organize and simply not go to work for a week, the whole house of cards would come crashing down.
ReplyDeleteYou seriously believe this guy was able to climb up on top of a cell door and witness these acts?
ReplyDeletePlease. "I swear to Allah" is the same as swearing to my cat.
Liar is what he is.
the americans r the real terrorists! wake the hell up everybody!!!
ReplyDeleteand to hell with israel!!!!
ReplyDelete"I saw [name blacked out] fucking a kid"
ReplyDeleteWhy would the witnesses swear like that?
"I saw [name blacked out] fucking a kid, his age would be about 15-18 years. The kid was hurting very bad and they covered all the doors with sheets. Then when I heard the screaming I climbed the door because on top it wasn't covered and I saw [blacked out], who was wearing the military uniform putting his dick in the little kid's ass,"
This is true evil. Way worse then 9/11. I kinda feel less bad about US deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan now. Hopefully some of the people who died were these sick rapists.
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