Sunday, November 29, 2009

The U.S. Could Have Killed Bin Laden in 2001 AND IN 2007


You've heard that - according to the U.S. Senate - Bin Laden was "within the grasp" of the U.S. military in Afghanistan in December 2001, but that then-secretary of defense Rumsfeld refused to provide the soldiers necessary to capture him.

This is not news: it was disclosed in 2005 by the CIA field commander for the area in Afghanistan where Bin Laden was holed up.

In addition, French soldiers allegedly say that they easily could have captured or killed Bin Laden in Afghanistan, but that the American commanders stopped them.

And the oldest - and second-largest - French newspaper claims that CIA agents met with Bin Laden two months before 9/11, when he was already wanted for the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole.

At that point, it should have been obvious to the American and allied intelligence services that Bin Laden was involved in planning 9/11:
  • The National Security Agency and the FBI were each independently listening in on the phone calls between the supposed mastermind of the attacks and the lead hijacker. Indeed, the FBI built its own antenna in Madagascar specifically to listen in on the mastermind's phone calls
  • The day before 9/11, the mastermind told the lead hijacker "tomorrow is zero hour" and gave final approval for the attacks. The NSA intercepted the message that day and the FBI was likely also monitoring the mastermind's phone calls

  • Indeed, two days before 9/11, Bin Laden called his stepmother and told her "In two days, you're going to hear big news and you're not going to hear from me for a while.” U.S. officials later told CNN that “in recent years they've been able to monitor some of bin Laden's telephone communications with his [step]mother. Bin Laden at the time was using a satellite telephone, and the signals were intercepted and sometimes recorded." Indeed, before 9/11, to impress important visitors, NSA analysts would occasionally play audio tapes of bin Laden talking to his stepmother.
  • And according to CBS News, at 9:53 a.m on 9/11, just 15 minutes after the hijacked plane had hit the Pentagon, "the National Security Agency, which monitors communications worldwide, intercepted a phone call from one of Osama bin Laden's operatives in Afghanistan to a phone number in the former Soviet Republic of Georgia", and secretary of Defense Rumsfeld learned about the intercepted phone call in real-time (if the NSA monitored and transcribed phone calls in real-time on 9/11, that implies that it did so in the months leading up to 9/11 as well)
But even ignoring everything that happened in and before 2001, there are still unanswered questions. Specifically, a retired Colonel and Fox News military analyst said that the U.S. could have killed Bin Laden in 2007, but didn't:
We know, with a 70 percent level of certainty — which is huge in the world of intelligence — that in August of 2007, bin Laden was in a convoy headed south from Tora Bora. We had his butt, on camera, on satellite. We were listening to his conversations. We had the world’s best hunters/killers — Seal Team 6 — nearby. We had the world class Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) coordinating with the CIA and other agencies. We had unmanned drones overhead with missiles on their wings; we had the best Air Force on the planet, begging to drop one on the terrorist. We had him in our sights; we had done it ....Unbelievably, and in my opinion, criminally, we did not kill Usama bin Laden.
Indeed, a United States Congressman claims that the Bush administration intentionally let Bin Laden escape in order to justify the Iraq war.

Postscript: Many people claim that Bin Laden died a long time ago. According to
Israeli intelligence, Pakistani intelligence, and other sources, Bin Laden is dead.

According to video experts and and top Bin Laden experts, recent Bin Laden videos are fake.

So if Bin Laden is alive, American leaders have to explain why they have repeatedly chosen not to pull the trigger.

And if he is dead, they have to explain why they are claiming that he's alive and authenticating his videos.

6 comments:

  1. Freanch solider alledgy say that they easily could have captured or killed Bin Laden in Afghanistan....

    but i think its just easy to say..

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  2. I can't back up all of these claims, but I talked to a soldier (lived in same house over a year) and shortly after he returned from Afgan in early 2008, he told me that they had bin Laden located in late 2007, as reported here. BUT they were not allowed to move in the get him because all the 3-letters (FBI, CIA, NASA, etc) wanted in on the capture, so the 82nd Airborne WAS NOT ALLOWED TO PROCEED. By the time the CIA etc got there, Osama was gone.

    Because of this, I would have to accept those reports claiming that bin Laden was cornered AT LEAST TWICE.

    AS FOR THE LISTENING and not acting - there are thousands of intercepts each week. But we don't have enough people listening to the tapes and translating them AT ALL, much less in 24-48 hours. It was reported (CBS, NBC?) years ago about this problem and that there was almost no way to fix it, at least until we get both more PEOPLE in the translating, and more COMPUTERS with speech recognition designed to understand Farsi and others.

    But if the IS "stopped" others from acting, then the entire Bush team must go on trial for the deaths of every service person, for the fraud, and theft by his Haliburton cohorts for extending the war, and for attacking Iraq when they knew the intelligence was faked.


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  3. limo hire said...

    Freanch solider alledgy say

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    That's easy for you to say.

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  4. I guess there are still some out there biased to the cronies of the last administration.

    Fact: we were lied too about Saddam H. having a relation to 9/11 and weapons of mass destruction.

    Fact: Taliban resources have been getting cut off years.

    ...but still they have enough to funds for their "war on terror"? hmm...

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  5. If this is a democracy, the working class majority should rule, which means the laws should be for the benefit of the MAJORITY. Tax laws, for instance, should favor us, not the rich.

    lobbying, ie legalized bribing, should be banned (israel does not allow bribing/lobbying, but does a hell of a lot of it in DC!

    Soldiers should not be sent off to kill and be killed to make Halliburton, etc., wealthy. This has been going on for many decades, such as Viet Nam, etc. This simply makes more enemies for the US, and more terrorists who want revenge for our State Terrorism! When will we put an end to this treachery by our gov?

    And no more coups should be tolerated, such as the first Bush 'election'!

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  6. Apparently when the CIA agents met with Bin Laden two months before 9/11 it was in a CIA hospital in Cuba?!

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