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Tuesday, March 30, 2010

Whatever You Think of Global Warming ... Fascism is Not Cool

Noam Chomsky has previously written that he would submit to fascism if it would help combat global warming:

Suppose it was discovered tomorrow that the greenhouse effects has been way understimated, and that the catastrophic effects are actually going to set in 10 years from now, and not 100 years from now or something. Well, given the state of the popular movements we have today, we'd probably have a fascist takeover-with everybody agreeing to it, because that would be the only method for survival that anyone could think of. I'd even agree to it, because there's just no other alternatives right now."

And James Lovelock - environmentalist and creator of the "Gaia hypothesis" - recently told the Guardian:

We need a more authoritative world. We've become a sort of cheeky, egalitarian world where everyone can have their say. It's all very well, but there are certain circumstances – a war is a typical example – where you can't do that. You've got to have a few people with authority who you trust who are running it. And they should be very accountable too, of course.

But it can't happen in a modern democracy. This is one of the problems. What's the alternative to democracy? There isn't one. But even the best democracies agree that when a major war approaches, democracy must be put on hold for the time being. I have a feeling that climate change may be an issue as severe as a war. It may be necessary to put democracy on hold for a while.

Whatever you think of climate change - whether you think we need to cool the planet or not - one thing is for sure ...

Fascism is not cool.

See this.


  1. Power corrupts. And, the fascist business model is that the government and the corporate interests are hand in hand. All we need. More of that. Some are using the very real threat of climate change (whether man made,or not) to lever people into a one world totalitarian system. Early on, I questioned Chomsky's motives and I don't think he is so stupid that he doesn't know what fascism is. Under such a system, this report from Greenpeace would never see the light of day because it is bad for business. It fingers Koch Industries for funding climate change debunking. http://huffingtonpost.com/brendan-demelle/greenpeace-unmasks-koch-i_b_518036.html

  2. I don't know what causes global warming. I am no scientist, but I will defer to those who are. For the many on the street fighting global warming is like pissing into the wind. You cannot buy a Prius, change to floursant lights, buy carbon credits and stop the world from meeting its inevitable end. Let's suppose you imposed an international law that all man made carbon emissions would be punished by fines or imprisonment. It is not enforcable and ergo the debate is an effort in futility. Literally a moot point.

    Carbon credits are just another excuse to steal peoples money and passing laws will simply allow TPTB to subjugate the free people of the world to the state and corporate power.

    We are a runaway train and Fascism will not stop it nor will you and I laying down on the tracks.

  3. I always understood Chomsky to be a believer in anarcho-syndicalism- far from fascism. I have a hard time believing he would back up such a notion without complete proof of the demise of humanity. I havent read the whole thing yet but maybe out of context? if not and Noam is going to the dark side- we are all screwed

  4. Noam Chomsky is known for his idealistic, independent, prejudice-free, and most of all rational approach to politics. This rationality includes considering the fact that if we keep fucking things up, we'll have no world to argue over politics at all. Politics won't matter, or even exist, once the Earth becomes inhabitable and we all die.

  5. We are already living in a Fascist country the evidence is right before our eyes. Lobbyists write bills , presidents make back door deals, msm tailors news to keep us complacent . If you look at the corporate structure of global corporations you can make the case that the one world order is already here.

  6. I'm not too surprised. Chomsky said in a recent lecture:

    "Right at this point, crucial questions arise about the nature of Western democracies and their future, these are extremely important topics, they're obviously the most important ones for us, and they're important for everyone because it's quite literally true that the survival of the species is at stake."

    It may get very bad. And people will clamor for security if it does. So democracy is by no means a guarantee. In the event of a future emergency, the military will probably directly take over under the guise of national security, and who knows, after that threat subsides, people will forget all about democracy, and instead, a technocratic leadership will arise, with engineers and scientists running the show. I think people will still have rights, but not the power to decide state decisions. Kind of like what we have right now, except there won't by any myth of democracy. In a lot of ways, that type of world has its advantageous, for one thing, our intelligence won't be insulted every day of the week by the propaganda that the people's voice actually matters.

    However, public opinion is still one of the main ruling forces in a society, so unless techniques of social control and propaganda develop even more, I doubt authoritarian rule will last beyond the state of emergency. And the fact that people are waking up in large numbers today, the authorities will have their hands full for years to come.

  7. Prof.Chomsky has often made it a point to show that he's not better than others, so that he too might fall for ther same basic weaknesses as others.

    I think that that was his point here. Not that he'd support such fascistic measures, but human weaknesses would encompass everyone, possibly including himself.

  8. Having read most of Chomsky I had a hard time believing my own eyes when I read the quote, so I looked up page 388 in my pdf. version of Understanding Power. It does not contain the quote.

  9. Fear not,for Fear is Failure, and the Forerunner of Failure..

    -Cancellarius Liber Librae-

  10. If the US government, or any other government, thought they could use the global warming issue to control its populace, they would have begun a campaign years ago. But, possibly, until they figure out a way to make money off of it, they won't.


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